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		<title>Flipping homes for a profit, but dear God don&#8217;t call it that!</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 14:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Cliff</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[According to a recent Wall Street Journal article, people are back to flipping homes again.&#160; Which is no surprise to us since we are looking for a homes to work on ourselves.&#160; Prices are cheap, lots of homes are in sub-par condition and if the final price is right, they even sell. Notice though in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a title="trashed house in need of rehabbing and flipping" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/andydemaesschalck/3993377674/"><img title="Trashed house that needs to be rehabbed and flipped" style="border-top-width: 0px; display: inline; border-left-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; margin: 4px 0px 9px 5px; border-right-width: 0px" height="164" alt="Trashed house that needs to be rehabbed and flipped" src="http://www.sudeira.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/trashedhouseinneedofflippingorrehabbing.jpg" width="244" align="right" border="0" /></a> According to a recent <a title="wall street journal article on flipping homes" href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126022588878780861.html">Wall Street Journal article</a>, people are back to flipping homes again.&#160; Which is no surprise to us since we are looking for a homes to work on ourselves.&#160; Prices are cheap, lots of homes are in sub-par condition and if the final price is right, they even sell.</p>
<p>Notice though in that last paragraph I didn’t say we are <strong>“flipping houses?”</strong>&#160; That is because that phrase has become the pariah of the real estate investment game.&#160; While those of us that do it professionally know what is going on, many end buyers hate us now.&#160; They see us as buying homes they could have had for cheap and making a big profit.&#160; </p>
<blockquote><p>Flipping isn&#8217;t a &quot;job&quot;.&#160; They aren&#8217;t &quot;professionals&quot;. They&#8217;re *opportunists* who seek to milk a get-rich-quick scheme.&#160; Most flippers tend to effect purely cosmetic repairs on a house (granite countertops) to make it move fast, while purposefully hiding deeper problems from the unsuspecting buyer.&#160; So, add &quot;scam artist&quot; to the list as well.      <br /><font color="#000000"><a title="people hate real estate flippers" href="http://forums.redfin.com/rf/board/print?board.id=LA_OC&amp;message.id=20360&amp;page=2&amp;format=page">Comment from Redfin Forums</a>         <br /></font></p>
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<p>While I am sure that may be the case in some situations, I guarantee that a lot of houses also wouldn’t make it into the hands of home owners if rehabbers didn’t work on them first.&#160; The first reason is that we can put up with the bank’s short sale lunacy and pay cash.&#160; Real estate flippers gets deals done and gets homes out of the bank’s hands.&#160; Second is that professional rehabbers put houses back together again.</p>
<p>To be honest, I haven’t looked at a project house yet that was move in ready.&#160; I know some people are flipping homes like that, but it isn’t the norm.&#160; The house just down the street is a good example.&#160; Investors bought it at auction (aka all cash), spruced it up a little bit and then sold it in three weeks, for a profit I would assume.&#160; </p>
<p>BUT, if they hadn’t had ~$300,000 in cash on hand to buy it, that house would have wound up in the hands of the bank and probably still be sitting vacant.&#160; Instead I have a new neighbor that I really need to go say hi to.</p>
<p>So <strong>real estate flipping</strong> has become a negative term and us real estate investors that do it are not smiled upon as brightly as before.&#160; That is ok, we will keep doing it and making a profit, but if anyone asks I rehab properties, not flip them!</p>
<p>If you would like to know more about how to make money rehabbing properties, <a title="learn more about flipping and rehabbing homes" href="http://www.sudeira.com/contact-form/">contact me today!</a></p>
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<p><font size="1">Photo courtesy of </font><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/andydemaesschalck/"><font size="1">Andy De Maesschalck</font> </a></p>
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		<title>Short Sales, Flipping Homes and Added Value</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 00:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Cliff</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I should know better than to read all the backlogged posts about real estate on a Monday after a holiday.&#160; This one has me irritated.&#160; This blog post is ripping on real estate investors for flipping short sale properties and in the process defrauding the banks.&#160; I have several problems with this. First is that [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should know better than to read all the backlogged posts about real estate on a Monday after a holiday.&#160; This one has me irritated.&#160; This blog post is ripping on real estate investors for <a title="flipping short sales fraud banks" href="http://washingtonindependent.com/69107/mortgage-fraud-threatens-housing-rebound">flipping short sale properties</a> and in the process defrauding the banks.&#160; I have several problems with this.</p>
<p>First is that <a title="Flipping homes is not illegal" href="http://www.reidepot.com/articles/Cook/flipping.html">flipping homes is in no way illegal</a>.&#160; The only time that it is, is when the seller has a buyer for a higher price and doesn’t disclose it.&#160; Of course there are always other ways to make it illegal, but the simple act of buying a home, then selling it for more money is not illegal.</p>
<p>Banks are trying to force buyers to not flip the home they are buying.&#160; Banks are:</p>
<blockquote><p>banks are requiring everyone involved in a transaction, from the real estate agent to the mortgage broker, to sign affidavits swearing they have aren’t in the flipping business with anyone else involved in the sale.&#160; <a title="banks forbidding flipping" href="http://washingtonindependent.com/69107/mortgage-fraud-threatens-housing-rebound">Source</a></p>
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<p>Of course they are doing this at the same time as they are jacking buyers around, not processing short sales for 6 months or more, and demanding buyers to use them as the lender.&#160; Effectively they are forcing people to buy all cash, and who has the cash?&#160; Investors of course.</p>
<p>Then there is complaints that flipping drives up prices.&#160; How can that be?&#160; Didn’t the new and improved lending rules make that impossible by making the appraiser report to the bank not the borrower?&#160; Oh, and while they are at it, the banks cut the fees to the appraisers who now outsource as much of the work as they can.&#160; Can you say ‘super accurate Zillow based appraisals?’</p>
<p>What about the ‘added value’ issue?&#160; Part of the complaint is that flipping homes doesn’t add any value.&#160; Two thoughts here.&#160; One, is that I have yet to see a house get flipped that didn’t get at least a minimum of cleanup and repackaging done to it.&#160; That is added value.&#160; Second is that by screwing around with buyers like they have, the banks have created a situation where a <strong>property is more valuable simply because it is not a short sale or REO!</strong>&#160;</p>
<p>Buyers are sick of the games the banks are playing and are paying more for properties that won’t have to have bank approval to sell.&#160; This of course drops the price of bank owned ones even further.&#160; As I see it, simply having the cash and patience to fight with a bank for 6 months to close the sale of a home is added value enough to warrant a flip.</p>
<p>Enough ranting from me on the banks and how they are screwing up the market and blaming it on everyone else.&#160; Now that you know my opinion on this, let me know what yours is.&#160; Are the banks to blame, or are they being hurt by dirty real estate investors that are flipping properties?</p>
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